Lmao some ppl as far as common sense lol. Yes. It seems you have to step up to a +p round and be very selective to get a round that performs as good as a 40 S&W. It would seem at times that the writers for CTD/TSL are biased toward Glock. 9mm Caliber Features Lol . Is have a job where I typically wear my shirt tucked in. 9 40 45 and 10mm. Add to that the fact I do figure 8 drills around 12-15 yds and draw, hit an IPSC zone C torso 3 times (1-2 through the center mass flap) and be back in compressed ready before the 1st brass has hit the ground!!!! Firearms must be shipped via Fedex Overnight, to your selected FFL. I have not experienced a lack of accuracy at all with the 6 barrel. I do have a .40 barrel for my G31, though. They did not crack or blow, but magnum recoil was hard on small parts. While the double-stack Glocks aren't huge by any stretch some people still have their issues with them; that's why one of the most popular aftermarket modifications for Glock pistols is a deeper undercut to the trigger guard and grip radius reduction. The deciding factor for me was ammo cost and the ability to control the follow-up shot. And for those of you that like the 9mm, the G 23s 40 cal. The Glock 32 has excellent accuracy and power just like my Ruger GP100 .357 magnum. But, the calculated recoil for Golden Saber VS Golden Saber 40 is 18% higher. It is considered one of the best semi-automatic pistols today, due to its robustness, reliability and ease of use. That way someone would have the smaller slide, but the ability to use double stack magazines. . Viridian Weapon Technologies. I cant say enough good things about it! We took the 23 to the range on However, the 26 kicks less. All in one gun; the g23? The sights are adequate for the task at hand, especially with the night sight option. Ive looked for the new G23, but nothing else stands out, theyre either not aesthetically pleasing, or I dont like how they feel in my hand. Now I carry a 30SF every day in the winter. In summery, carry what works best for you regardless of the popularity. It has been great for everything, shooting to concealing. I love it and Im glad I picked it. Of course she Carries a new #15 spring as well as #18 as well as the factory parts in her range bag. 3 of these have 9mm conversions for them. The shield arms 43x mags make it easy to carry 15+1. From sun rise to sun set. Seven 00 buckshot pellets vs a bucket full of birdshot will attest to that. 27, 2018 Among them are a decorated World War II vet A few months ago I bought a Glock 27 after shooting a friends. Brian. The most effective weapon will always be the one that you are carrying. Not completely sure if that was me or the gun, but nonetheless. Forty plus yrs later I purchased Glock-27 & S&W Shield .40. Designed for concealed carry and one of the most sought-after pistols, the G26 9mm is small enough to hide. I have added a few results garnered from experimentation with water from 21st Century Stopping Power, Paladin Press. A baseball is in-between. It worked flawlessly using my 40 cal magazine. Other than a single pistol class back in 2014 Im a self taught shooter, and I can EASILY draw, fire 3 rds, and hit center mass of my IDPA target with all 3 in less than 3 seconds from 10 yds. So, with the power issue being generally a matter of preference, all other factors must be the determination. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. While certainly visually impressive, a large jet of flame at the barrel is a sign that theres too much (or too slow) powder in your ammunition for the barrel length. My carry gun is a G26. No more trouble!, and it shoots smoother and with less recoil with the 9 or 40s running through it. The Glock 19 9mm features a 15-round magazine while the Glock 23 .40 caliber pistol carries 13 rounds in the magazine. From my POV the frame is to square and sharp in the web between thumb and trigger finger to be comfortable. I have owned a Glock 23 for 20 years. Glock is just one of many and it may be a good choice for some its however not always the best choice. hate to say that was over 40 yrs ago. Thanks for sharing with us. Also, it was Newton who was right. Its not a problem for me. Ive used a G23 for several years, and can shoot it pretty well. That comes at the cost of being somewhat more difficult to concealbut also comes with the ability to use 15+1 Shield Arms magazines. I had a guy in the lane next to me the other day with a Glock 17. Easily conceal and carry the GLOCK 26 - G26 Gen3 9mm Sub-Compact 10-Round Pistol that features a compact design and measures just 6.29 inches in length. The .40 caliber Glocks can always be down-sized to fire the Nine with a conversion barrel, but the Nines cant be up-sized. Its fine .I use G19 magazines with sleeves when the rules permit . I managed to get 38 rounds through it (no jams) before the shooting range closed down with a rain and wind storm. The barrel is 3.42 inches long, and the weapon weighs in at 21.71 ounces unloaded. Glock 30/ 10mm conversion barrel is a hard to beat combo.The 17 of flame will terrify anyone one the receiving end Love them full house rounds.Practice, practice practice. The Glock 30 has a sight radius of 5.91 inches and the Glock 21 has one of 6.77 inches. But, back on topic the Glock 23 is hard to beat for the versatility of being able to use three different types of ammo (including the 9 mm), and can be used for concealed carry. Really only a half inch height and length wise, same width. The Glock's polymer construction makes it the lighter choice. Just my OPINION based on what I have done/seen. I have really enjoyed it. Various loads demonstrate excellent wound potential. The Glock 43X has - for all intents and purposes - the same upper (slide, barrel, parts) as the Glock 43, just with a longer grip to accept the Glock Slimline magazine, a 10+1 single stack. .40S&Ws suck, People hate them in all brands of guns. It can also be looked at as preaching to the choir. The metric equivalent is a joule a.k.a newton-meter. Knock down power has been disproven. Why consider these pistols over the 43 or the 26? I went over there and I see what you mean. The ejector is not an expensive part, so it just doesnt make sense to not do things the right way. The 10-mm was meant to shoot FULL TILT ammo but off the shelf it has been dumbed down a bit lately. Seems to me like a person should CC the largest caliber firearm that they can shoot well and carry adequately concealed. The Glock 19 9mm features a 15-round magazine while the Glock 23 .40 caliber pistol carries 13 rounds in the magazine. On shoot ability, I went to the range yesterday with my Nano and G27. Finally added an extended slide release for convenience. The Glock 26 has a staggered (double stack) magazine, and the Glock 43 does not. orangecrushjedi 2 yr. ago. To reach the same threshold in a 9 mm or a 40 you have to run at near maximum pressure. In my experience, accuracy and quick follow up shots are not a problem. The barrels can be changed out to shoot 9mm, and 357 SIG, in addition to the 40 barrel that comes with it.. Good luck and be safe. No one would volunteer to stand in front of a rubber band being shot at their face, nor a pebble thrown at their head. Thanks for reading. Even before the G26 came along, Glock already had a delightfully compact pistol in the Glock 19 9mm. Ive been carrying a 23 for a couple of years now. Of course, this is personal preference, but Im an ex-cop, NRA Firearms Instructor, and a competitive shooter. Moreover, it has more precise shot placement. Now that does not mean I wont get the 23 for some fun. The Glock 43X, on the other hand, gives you the thin frame and easy concealment of the 43, but is more shootable than the 26 or 43 given the longer grip. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. ~Dave Dolbee. The Glock is easily field stripped and maintained. I use a molded plastic holster made for this exact streamlight. The Glock 23 will hold less ammunition but a larger round, and be ever so slightly larger than the Glock 19. Among common handgun rounds, the .357Mag, .357 SIG and 10mm deliver that much muzzle energy out of typical 4 barrels. The 230-grain .45 is at 20; the .45 ACP 185-grain standard load is at about 17. I now own a 9mm barrel for it (and an Osprey suppressor, BIG GRIN. Inside 50 yards, the energy doesnt drop much inside that range, and still penetrates quite effectively. Usually the shooter is less accurate than the pistol. I would think the 500 would have a much better one-shot stop potential. Tried a Glock 23 GEN four and instantly fell in love. Im looking forward to trying out a G23! Sir, PS: I will say that the best thing I ever did was change to a 3.5lb trigger!!! I am a retired police officer. Glock has been around since 1963 and in 1981 Glock handguns as we know them were born. It was always described as having penetrating power, as compared to the knock down power of a .45. The slide is cut for the Shield Sights RMSc footprint, but adapter plates (use aftermarket; MOS plates are known for deficiencies) can be used to mount an optic with a different footprint. Hurr durr, volunteer to stand in front of it is the most cliched, tired comment out there. Reloading has become a ritual, and my passion has moved to multiple Calibers. My first Glock was a G23 Gen 3 and I still have it. Its the same reason most 9mm guys wouldnt carry a .380 or .22 ha! 2 models. I tried really hard to like the 40. IMHO, the mid frame isn't any harder to conceal. It has a compact frame, but is still has a double stack mag which was another important feature. You can get optional 22 round magazines for both guns. Problem was, they were difficult to control without extensive training. I ended up buying the Glock 23 Gen 4 with factory night sights, and am love mine even more than the range rental. However, it is erroneous to assume that the G26 is simply a G19, as "Nate M." of Gunivore points out: "The G26 is more than just the 17 and 19's 'little brother.'. Newtons Third Law of Motion: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. In my reasonably informed assessment, 9mm currently reigns king in terms of cost/performance ratio, at least in pistol calibers. I had a G27 & sold it because of the snappy recoil. I also have .45 ACP and 10MM 1911s available plus long guns and shot guns so the .40 S&W isnt really needed. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Weak grip will induce stovepipes in the 9mm, whereas the snappier recoil of the .40 will cycle the pistol without fail. The Baby Glock G26 will also take the Glock 19s fifteen-round magazine, the Glock 17s seventeen-round magazine, and even Glocks submachine gun-sized thirty-three-round stick magazine without modification. I have bought a G19, 31 & 20 since. We want you, our readers, to be able to make informed decisions. I dont just stand and shoot, I do my best to simulate shooting from concealed as much as our range will allow. If it was plenty good for professional gun fighters in the wild west, what has happened today to make it so much more dangerous? I own five Glocks total. I carved out the 9 and x-ring with 200 rounds at 45ft, along with with a few fliers that were my fault. Glock doesn't make a 26 MOS or 43 MOS, so adding an optic would require either a gunsmith or an aftermarket slide if you decided you want one at some point. I traded in a Taurus PT145 plus $120 for a new Glock 23 Gen4, and I definitely wouldnt go back I do miss the manual safety, as I have been used to that, but this is my first Glock, and I will stick to the brand based on my range experience, I have always wanted a Kimber carry, but am shy on the price, i feel sorry for anybody that is standing on the recieving end of any glock pistol , because its going to be about the last thing they will see on this earth. $539.11. It is dimensionally identical to the Glock 19, but is slightly heavier and uses a modified slide, frame, .40 S&W barrel, and a standard magazine capacity of 13 . Chris, Will we ever learn? The .40 is a result of many studies into problems that have dogged police side arms for over 100 years. They weigh but 23.6 ounces unloaded and pump up to about 32 ounces loaded. I bought a Glock 23C and put in a #15 spring and stainless rod rather than the plastic I also put in a slide buffer. He never said you HAVE to use a Glock. I have a Glock 23 40cal that I use for target practice. I also spent around $130 for a 9mm drop in barrel for the 23 converting it into a 19 same pistol 2 calibers thinking of getting a .357 SIG barrel also much cheaper than getting 3 pistols. A 45acp seems to lob large projectiles in there when you are talking 50 yards. I shoot 9mm out of mine sometimes and I dont really even notice a difference recoil wise but I can see a big difference in how much my steel targets move!!! In 2009, he co-founded the defense and security blog Japan Security Watch. With its capability to be converted to 9mm and.357 Sig in less than a minute, it has become my number 1 all around handgun. I saw the .38 underpowered. A person might also bring up the Glock 26 Gen 5. Most sporting arms publications within the United States report muzzle energies in foot-pound force. However, there are many other fine makes and I own a bunch of them. (Against the other handgun calibers of course not a rifle round). Shoot what YOU are comfortable with. Best, Im perfectly happy with my Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45 acp.. Alternately, it is a handgun with a standard. Born in southeastern Washington State, Sam Hoober graduated in 2011 from Eastern Washington University. I agree 100%, but I went to the next. SS1, Let us know what you think in the comments. 2) Its easier on the shooter, which both encourages regular practice and makes followup shots faster and easier. So do Springfield, Sig, Baretta, Browning,DE, Ruger, HK and others. Sorry, Bob, but this statement is a fallacy: the fact remains the 9mms wound potential isnt up to the .45 ACP.. 29 when hunting in bear country,19,23,17 and they all have their purpose. Anyone expecting a one-shot stop with a handgun in a defensive situation is either an exceptional marksman (in which case caliber wont matter), or theyre in for quite the surprise. I feel that a 9mm can be effective in most situations, BUT a .40 S&W is better. The Glock 43X is significantly slimmer than the Glock 26, at a width of 1.10 inches (the 26 is 1.30 inches). Call me crazy. 1) Its easier on the budget, which encourages regular practice. Ill never learn, just want to have a little fun trying. I believe the 10mm moves into deer killing capability inside of 50 yards, which makes the 10mm a go anywhere do anything handgun. The newere release with the beavertail backstraps reduce the flip. Thanks for your answer, Dave. Agency Arms Glock G19 urban threaded 9mm. So for a defense weapon I think its a great choice!!! Shoot straight and stay safe. But when it comes down to it, proper grip, stance, and positioning will make it barely noticable. In terms of platforms, Im sick of all that too. If I were to purchase a Gen 2 Kel-Tec SUB-2000, I would also go with 9 mm because the ammo is cheaper and the capacity is larger with 9 mm. Patents Pending. So is the 1911, but that is another subject. I keep hearing of all these Latest FBI reports I would really like to see them. G26 GEN 5 FS. On top of that, there have been changes to the line between full generations, for instance the glock 26 is available in a generation 2.5. There were a few cracks in the canvas, however. If I want something small, I carry a Glock 26. and .40 cal ammo is plentiful and inexpensive to fire compared to the other firearms I own. At 18 bucks a pop for the XGrip, I set up four mags to use with my 26. Yet, a study by the Feds some years ago confirmed what many harness cops already knew. In all fairness, I was a Glock protagonist for a long time. As a Firearms Instructor for a Ga. L E Agency for 10 yrs. With each iteration, Glock simultaneously improved the overall design and made it smaller and more useful to concealed carriers and those who needed a discrete handgun. We own a small gun store in NC inside a bigger, regular store & building supply co., I try to grab every glock I can. The Glock is always reliable, you cannot take that away. I carry concealed with a 15 round mag when Im out with my family. Some were loaded perhaps too hot. However, given that the adoption of the 40 S&W cartridge was driven in no small part by FBI ballistics research after the Miami shootout, its worth discussing the most recent FBI research in light of modern hollow-point ammunition. It definitely is an unusually powerful mid size frame. Ive had my G23 for 20 years and friends with Walters and wheel guns are jealous. I feel like the 43 did not have the weight to feel good in my hands . m is the mass of the bullet. Ammo Expense 9mm wins I enjoy my Glock 23. I carry a Glock 34 typically (I own two). Can you explain more about if the CZs are noticably more accurate than the Glocks across the board? When I got my concealed carry license a few years ago I cycled through all of my handguns but couldnt find anything that provided the right combination of caliber, capacity, reliability, accuracy and carry-ability. Your email address will not be published. My daily carry is a G23!! All of my ARs have 3.5 Gisselle triggers and its a comfortable weight for me. Also added a Combat Armory G23 threaded barrel, and KAK 9/16 compensator. So thanks for the info! Years ago, I started my collection with a Ruger P89, which for me was quite unreliable. 10-round magazine capacity. The article ignores ammo pricing. About a yr ago I was shooting my steel targets from about 10 yds. Given how thin they are (1.1 inches) the 43X/48 conceals easily. Really? Not only do you get more capacity, but better accuracy, more controllability, and a less steep learning curve. Im not sure, but I think kinetic energy would be a better indicator of destructive power. That is if they didnt drop dead first! There's also the wrinkle of the Slimline Glock pistols, which make a case for themselves as possibly a better choice than the 26 or the 43, and we'll talk about that too. All that aside, New ammo development, has increased the effectiveness of all handgun rounds. The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! However to each their own on what they like, the thing you have to do is practice, practice practice, tear down your guns and keep them clean. The Glock 26 is actually several handguns in one. I carry this thing with me everywhere I go. So, in terms of size, the Glock 23 is truly easier and comfortable to conceal carry since it won't bulge out too much. It functions like a dry fire Snap Cap that fits in your barrel just like a round, when you pull the trigger the laser comes on for 1/100 of a second and lets you know if you hit your target. Share your experiences with the Glock 23, 19 or your preferred Glock in the comment section. . But anyone worth shooting is worth shooting twice so itll work. I shoot 4 Glocks: G35/3 in .40, G30/4 in .45, G19/4 in 9mm., G42/4 in .380. Glock categorizes their guns as Generation 1, Generation 2, Generation 3, Generation 4, and recently Generation 5. 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