But maybe not too much, since the main change, that affects the keymaps would just be a rename from ergodox_ez to ergodox. Built with Docusaurus. I still have no idea why it doesn't work for you, if it does for @leizzer. The video below demonstrates how to create a macro command of a screenshot (Shift-Command-4) on macOS, so you can take a screenshot with a single key. Rather than attempting to bundle a compilation environment, the configurator uses a KiiConf server to handle firmware generation. In fact I think I will send a pull request that deletes the whole chibios_test, as it no longer serves the original purpose. LCD screen, change LED brightness, etc.). The way I had previously done it was with the QMK Configurator which is very cool, you use the GUI to edit the keymap, it compiles to a new .hex (firmware) that you flash to the keyboard using the QMK Toolbox. Soarer, hasu and dfj all conspired on the GeekHack IRC channel (#geekhack@irc.freenode.net) to develop what we know today as USB NKRO that works across Windows, Linux and macOS. Is this a good idea? They actually provide the latest vanilla QMK firmware builds, including VIA support, on the downloads page. Compilation Compilation is possible and tested on Windows/Linux/macOS. For those that are not familiar, firmware is compiled software that is stored on a non-volatile device (like inside a keyboards flash storage). Both were designed as protocol converters, and both started with the PJRC Teensy 2.0. The K-Type animations run at 100 fps. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Vial is a real-time layout editor for QMK, allowing you to change your keymap without recompiling or flashing the firmware. However, the recommended method is using a Dockerfile. While the firmware was originally based on the Teensy 2.0 and 3.0 codebases the original schematics and bootloader were forked from the McHCK project. The QMK Documentation page is pretty expansive, and tries to document all features available. Generally this is not possible since either the controller can not updated (most keyboard controllers are very dumb 8 bit microcontrollers) OR the firmware is security locked. It was designed to handle both layout mapping as well as LED configuration for you keyboard. Or if were contributing back to another project, we maintain that license (and usually try to upstream changes). Some of the source code is from PJRC/Teensy, other source code is from the McHck Project. This is the awesome desktop app that jbondeson has been working on. Remap a key that does not exist in the original keyboard layout. Now, there is a choice: manufacturers of course provide some HAL for their MCUs, but they are absolutely incompatible between different manufacturers. Additionally I don't see why the Ergodox EZ and Infinity Ergodox keymaps could not be shared, even if they have different underlying hardware. The Infinity version would probably use it's own visualizer though. Stop. Inputting trigger information is fairly straightforward as each trigger currently defines a scancode. The KLL compiler supports multiple emitters. Then, once you have a docker environment, you can select a build script here. The BusPirate and OpenOCD are used in manufacturing, though we use JTAG if possible (same cable, much faster but is not supported by all MCUs). It's built on top of QMK (maybe the same people?). I could probably learn the KLL syntax, but they don't have some of the neat features that have been added to the QMK firmware recently (plus the awesome algernon layouts that I saw just as I was defaulting my EZ for my friend). Next up, git repos! It also seems to be much more community driven. No compiler was made for KLL 0.2 and lower. And if youve been unlucky , youve probably messed up and had to uninstall the driver as well (which is a bit tricky). TMK (where QMK was derived from late 2014) was started back in 2010 by hasu and the kiibohd controller firmware, by HaaTa, early 2011. VIA Configurator is a desktop app that talks to your VIA-enabled keyboard and allows you to remap keys on-the-fly, as well as toggling layout options, programming macros, and controlling lighting. Otherwise confusion ensues :). Indeed, its not perfect. But it seems like it was very experimental in the TMK firmware too, with only the onekey and the Infinity 60% supported. The firmware flashed to the keyboard must have VIA support enabled, and you can find pre-compiled .hex/.bin firmware files with VIA support here: VIA Firmware Downloads. For Homebrew users, it is also available as a Cask: This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may belong to a fork outside of the repository. The compiler is written in Python and is based on funcparserlib. I want to fix a little the instructions too. The biggest challenge moving the Infinity Ergodox support to the QMK firmware is that there's no support for ChibiOS at the moment. Get the latest product news, special offersand interesting behind-the-scenes stories from us. It is still being actively developed, but is closed source. Before we dive into what VIA is, let's go over what QMK Firmware is first in case you're not sure. Hasu's Alternative Controller Guide by RoastPotatoes, TMK Layer mapping guide by RoastPotatoes, Discussion, Written by /u/jetpacktuxedo for his microboard, Written and maintained by /u/metalliqaz, Main discussion/repository on Geekhack. @fredizzimo I'd be happy to test the QMK port on my Infinity(ies) if you need an extra set of hands/eyes. He works on a bit of everything at Input Club. Or better yet, figure out how to build your own! I agree with @jackhumbert that this is the structure to use: This is a lot to process on a Sunday, but I wanted to chime in and ask that we used something like this: I.e, it needs to be immediately clear wheter it's the EZ or the Infinity someone is using. A small fork of dfu-util to maintain a macOS binary release of dfu-util. Just follow the QMK documentation (i.e. Check out the video above demonstrating how to remap a Light Effect key on the top right corner of the Keychron K8 Pro keyboard to the Eject key with VIA software, so you can use a shortcut to put your Mac to sleep (Command-Option-Eject), or even remap the fn key with ease. QMK ( Quantum Mechanical Keyboard) is an open source community centered around developing computer input devices. Not hard, but a few steps including some waiting, and takes maybe 5 minutes. If you have CONSOLE_ENABLE = yes in your keyboard's rules.mk, you can print messages with xprintf(), useful for debugging: When using the QMK Toolbox on Windows, it will prompt at first run to install the necessary drivers. I have made more keymap changes in a week than in months previously. Both the WhiteFox and Infinity Ergodox hardware also support 100 fps animations. GitHub KLL - Keyboard Layout Language Spec KLL Web Configurator - latest Kiibohd Presentations Scanned Documents I definitely don't want to do as the TMK does by default, having the users copy the library into the right location manually. If the keyboard is qmk compatible but its not in the vias compatible list, can you enable it anyway? So the question is, can just compile the code with my layout and flash it, or should I better recreate my layout in Infinity's web configurator? Work fast with our official CLI. My understanding of how ChibiOS and mbed work into the development chain is pretty limited. Multiple code repositories on GitHub -- there are, A web GUI tool for configuring and compiling TMK can be found. Then, to support all of the hardware specific calls, Python callbacks were implemented with Scan and Output. privacy statement. CoolerMaster QuickFire Rapid-I Firmware Updates. help. He keeps PCB fabs on their toes with his stringent manufacturing checklist (weve qualified a lot more pcb fabs than wed care to admit here at Input Club ). But be aware that things are quite different here, so your changes might not apply anymore. Therefore I have been thinking of the option to move to the QMK firmware instead. The Infinity Ergodox comes with two additional libraries. Some considerations for minimum specs: It's possible to port chips with lower specs, but will be more effort and have fewer features. KLL (0.2c) was first unveiled at the 7th Kiibohd Bay Area keyboard meetup (in San Francisco) on May 31st, 2014, hosted by keyboard.io. In the process I hope to learn how to update/edit the firmware myself, and produce custom LED visualizations. Stuff like holding an f key to change a layer as long as I hold the key or tapping the f key to lock the layer (ACTION_LAYER_TAP_TOGGLE in tmk/qmk), running custom code on a key press (ACTION_FUNCTION_TAP) or having dual roles for a key, like ALT when held or APP when tapped (ALT_T(KC_APP) in qmk) seems to be missing in the Kiibohd firmware. Originally started by matt3o for the WhiteFox keyboard, KiiConf is the web-based configuration utility for our keyboards. See below for a list of supported keyboards and the firmware files to use. VIA is like the QMK toolbox, a GUI application, but the firmware changes are instantly pushed to the keyboard. We update these two pieces separately as we qualify stable firmware for the configurator rather than just releasing the latest (and possibly unstable) firmware. Do you want some more detailed refactoring plans, before sending the first pull requests? For reference, a standard USB 2.0 LS keyboard only polls data at 125 Hz . It supports auto-detection and auto-flashing of firmware to keyboards. Both with the same result. More SRAM for code, more flash for animations, more Hz for spamming USB packets over the interwebs. A generic visualization library, which makes it easy to add animations for LCD screens and LED backlight for example. QMK Toolbox supports the following bootloaders: ARM DFU (APM32, Kiibohd, STM32, STM32duino) via dfu-util; Atmel/LUFA/QMK DFU via dfu-programmer; Atmel SAM-BA (Massdrop) via Massdrop Loader; BootloadHID (Atmel, PS2AVRGB) via bootloadHID; Caterina (Arduino, Pro Micro) via avrdude; HalfKay (Teensy, Ergodox EZ) via Teensy Loader; LUFA/QMK HID via hid_bootloader_cli Also note that the chibios_test "keyboard" has the structure for keyboards with subprojects, which is needlessly complex to serve as an example. But in addition to just copying the rules.mk file, you also need to edit it, like I tried to explain in my previous message. Anyway, I will start the real porting now, as I have started my summer vacation, although at least the first week will be busy with other things as well. Either that, or we have to add back the onekey test keyboard for it. sign in Of course keyboards don't need to use them, if they are not needed. Learn more. The community encompasses all sorts of input devices, such as keyboards, mice, and MIDI devices. I just want unicode support/custom shift keys. @fredizzimo I would like to see a chibios_keyboards or arm_keyboards folder so I can drop my keymap there. It is still being . I suppose as a either a direct copy or a git subtree copy. However I think that @flabbergast, who originally made it for TMK has been testing it (unfortunately the fact that he originally implemented it is not included in the history of this repository, since the commit was squased, so it shows that I did everything). Cheers. To compile natively for your platform, refer to the wiki. This is the old Windows GUI front-end for dfu-util. It's however clear that the keymaps won't be compatible by default though, some sort of porting would be needed. After that ChibiOS support could be added, together with adding support for the Infinity Ergodox, so it can be tested. Via is the original real-time QMK layout editor. ZMK (Zephyr mechanical keyboard) is open source firmware created for wireless custom keyboards, but it also works on wired keyboards. I'm not the only one with problems @eltang for example, has a perfectly valid pull request Update functions used to write to EEPROM, for which I see no reason for having to wait. But perhaps the biggest one is that I can't seem to get my pull requests accepted, at least not within a reasonable time. In his quest for quality, he rewrites code about just as much as HaaTa does . Or said a different way, both input and outputs are known ahead of time ! All of the releases (including release notes) can be found on GitHub. One cool feature of the SAM4S is the built-in bootloader SAM-BA. Two comments about the above things: Infinity 60% is already done also with Chibios. But, KLL has a very interesting design aspect to it. I have my keyboard with teensy 3.2 working using tmk_firmware, I would like to make the changes here as well. I recently received an Infinity ErgoDox and I'm trying to figure out how to actually write layouts beyond the online configurator. Lately hes been really into using IronCAD. So far, I'm leaning to using QMK with the Infinity Ergodox, even though it looks like I can't use the LCD (which was one of the main reasons to get the Input Club version, but meh). If nothing happens, download Xcode and try again. Finally: it's of course possible to do away with accessing the registers directly, and there are 2 notable successful efforts {both only for one particular family of ARM chips, namely Freescale/NXP Kinetis - this covers Teensy 3.x, LC and Input Club's keyboards}, namely PJRC's arduino core for Teensies and Jacob's (a.k.a. Because I have to change things there (chibios.mk and .gitignore). I'm comfortable using this format for boards other than the EZ: When we get the actual functioning structure down for other projects, @ezuk can check it out and see if it's something he wants to switch the EZ to :). All of the keyboards released by Keebio so far have QMK support, and Keebio is involved with the QMK organization as a collaborator. Features A "keymap" can be configured in Ruby which is a concise, readable and happy language RP2040 is the target platform microcontroller The bootloader may be incorrect in the default file. Really though, all this work was done in order to prepare for state scheduling testing (also known as short/long press or tap keys). Yes, I'm aware of that, and as I mentioned above the keymaps won't be automatically compatible. Learn more. They share a lot of code obviously, but our recent diverge from forkship just shows how differently they're growing. All the products will be shipped within 2 business days. What is VIA, and how does it relate to QMK. Quantum Mechanical Keyboard Firmware. Something that people tend to forget, is why old keyboards had bezels. It supports most AVR and ARM chips that you'll find on keyboards. They are usually a good deal for both beginners and enthusiasts because this line-up aims to cover most layouts from compact to full-size as well. Just a bit more explanation for the people who don't have much experience with ARMs: that world is much more diverse than AVR - while the ARM core is guaranteed to be the same, all the 'peripheral' things (e.g GPIO, power, USB, ) differ (a lot!) The mbed library is currently located in the tmk_core\tool\mbed\mbed-sdk directory. I have some experience with writing layouts for tmk and qmk and compared to these, the Kiibohd firmware either lacks a lot of functionality or doesn't make it . DIY keyboards using a Teensy, Pro Micro, or other microcontroller are fully customizable. The second is automating the Zadig driver installation. A generic visualization library, which makes it easy to add animations for LCD screens and LED backlight for example. Recently there have been a lot of changes in the KLL compiler in regards to JSON output. Stars - the number of stars that a project has on GitHub.Growth - month over month growth in stars. Activity is a relative number indicating how actively a project is being developed. Thats the goal of kiidrv, to make flashing your keyboard on Windows more seamless. Reevaluating that decision now, I have a couple thoughts. If youre looking to get everything in one: wireless, QMK/VIA enabled, customizable, hot-swappable, budget-friendly, and more, you may want to consider the Keychron K Pro series (including K2 Pro, 2023 Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android, ISO & ANSI Q3 & Q4 & Q6 & K8 PBT Keycap Set, Low Profile Gateron Mechanical Switch Set. The goal of this shared library (kiibohd.so) was to be able to control the KLL processing cycle-by-cycle in order to construct any sort of situation that may occur on a keyboard. Note: Via and Vial are tools for remapping a QMK keyboard layout. Input Club Wiki. You can find the schematic for one of the later versions of the capsense controller on our GitHub (was originally hosted on Gitorious which closed) which was named DPH for dfj, parak and HaaTa. So I would like that these two libraries becomes part of the QMK too, rather as something external. @fredizzimo Yes, sorry I wasn't more clear, but I've made the indicated edits to the file. I also don't like that keyboards not made by @tmk himself are classified as second-class citizen. The Infinity keymaps, would just use normal c includes, or modify the make files to include the relevant parts of the ergodox_ez keymaps. PC emulation sounds awesome - testing would be a dream :) The serial and visualiser sound fun to mess with as well! Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I love VIA! So instead of writing to MCU registers directly, programmers for ARM very often use a software layer (called HAL) between their code and the MCU hardware. So, back in 2016 HaaTa began his port of the KLL firmware to x86. Over^Kill also helped turn HaaTas proposed force curve in the final Hako and Halo switches. I have it working on a lets split, but I cant find a hex file with via for the levinson! You signed in with another tab or window. As you requested, I will keep the refactoring quite minimal, and only restrict it to things that makes it easier to add ChibiOS support. ~/programming/qmk_firmware/keyboards/chibios_test/teensy_lc_onekey> make -f Makefile.3.2 Makefile.3.2:76: ../../tmk_core/tool/chibios/common.mk: No such file or directory Makefile.3.2:77: ../../tmk_core/tool/chibios/chibios.mk: No such file or directory make: *** No rule to make target '../../tmk_core/tool/chibios/chibios.mk'. After thinking about the problem for a while, HaaTa decided to rewrite a large portion of the firmware and split execution into two different paths. It should be pretty easy to get running on Atmel AVR USB based boards (e.g., HHKB, Atomic, Planck, ErgoDox, Phantom, NerD). This guide from pjrc may also be a good place to get started. QMK is forked from TMK which supports the Atmel AVR family (and now ARM Cortex-M, but I'm not sure that QMK has this fully). Does anyone know of a way to enable layer aware RGB lighting in VIA? Why QMK/VIA is one of the most essential features for a custom keyboar If you type a lot daily, like for emails, texts, photo editing, video editing, etc, you may want to make every keystroke as efficient as possible in order to be more productive. to your account. JSON is used by both the configurator/KiiConf as well as host-side KLL to gather more information that is available to the KLL compiler, but not the final output generated by the KLL compiler. We opensource (CERN OHL) the schematic, layout, BOM (bill of materials) as well as the gerbers used to manufacture the pcbs. 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